I first came across Steven and Ellen when they did a road trip, they came all the way up from Cardiff to our warehouse in North Wales.

I wasn't in on that particular day, but I was told all about the following week when I was asked to share some images on our social channels.

Through this interaction, the University of South Wales' Instagram account, @uswfashiondesign, started engaging with us.

We'd been on each other's radar for a number of months and then I thought actually is there more that we could be doing here.

Was there a way in which we could engage with their students?

I reached out through Instagram and suggested maybe is there something that we could do with an end of year project and I was referred to Jo,

After a few email exchanges, we arranged for a face-to-face meeting in Cardiff at the beginning of 2019.

That's when I met Joe and Steve and we talked about the potential brief that they want to give to the secondary students in March.

I had a tour of the fantastic facilities and met a lot of the teaching staff.

We've had had all the initial meetings, a brief has been developed and I've given 28 packs of material to each of the students.

Let's see what they come up with...